diff --git a/public/index.html b/public/index.html
index 695de9556..692493f4f 100644
--- a/public/index.html
+++ b/public/index.html
@@ -667,7 +667,7 @@
                                     Max prompt cost: <span id="openrouter_max_prompt_cost">Unknown</span>
                                 </div>
                                 <hr>
-                                <div class="range-block" data-source="openai,claude,windowai,openrouter,ai21">
+                                <div class="range-block" data-source="openai,claude,windowai,openrouter,ai21,scale">
                                     <div class="range-block-title" data-i18n="Temperature">
                                         Temperature
                                     </div>
@@ -2000,18 +2000,34 @@
                         </form>
 
                         <form id="scale_form" data-source="scale" action="javascript:void(null);" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data">
-                            <h4>Scale API Key</h4>
-                            <div class="flex-container">
-                                <input id="api_key_scale" name="api_key_scale" class="text_pole flex1" maxlength="500" value="" autocomplete="off">
-                                <div title="Clear your API key" data-i18n="[title]Clear your API key" class="menu_button fa-solid fa-circle-xmark clear-api-key" data-key="api_key_scale"></div>
+                            <div id="normal_scale_form">
+                                <h4>Scale API Key</h4>
+                                <div class="flex-container">
+                                    <input id="api_key_scale" name="api_key_scale" class="text_pole flex1" maxlength="500" value="" autocomplete="off">
+                                    <div title="Clear your API key" data-i18n="[title]Clear your API key" class="menu_button fa-solid fa-circle-xmark clear-api-key" data-key="api_key_scale"></div>
+                                </div>
+                                <div data-for="api_key_scale" class="neutral_warning">
+                                    For privacy reasons, your API key will be hidden after you reload the page.
+                                </div>
+                                <h4>Scale API URL</h4>
+                                <input id="api_url_scale" name="api_url_scale" class="text_pole" maxlength="500" value="" autocomplete="off" placeholder="https://dashboard.scale.com/spellbook/api/v2/deploy/xxxxxxx">
                             </div>
-                            <div data-for="api_key_scale" class="neutral_warning">
-                                For privacy reasons, your API key will be hidden after you reload the page.
+                            <div id="alt_scale_form">
+                                <h4>Scale Cookie (_jwt)</h4>
+                                <div class="flex-container">
+                                    <input id="scale_cookie" name="scale_cookie" class="text_pole flex1" maxlength="500" value="" autocomplete="off">
+                                    <div title="Clear your cookie" data-i18n="[title]Clear your cookie" class="menu_button fa-solid fa-circle-xmark clear-api-key" data-key="scale_cookie"></div>
+                                </div>
+                                <div data-for="scale_cookie" class="neutral_warning">
+                                    For privacy reasons, your cookie will be hidden after you reload the page.
+                                </div>
                             </div>
-                            <h4>Scale API URL</h4>
-                            <input id="api_url_scale" name="api_url_scale" class="text_pole" maxlength="500" value="" autocomplete="off" placeholder="https://dashboard.scale.com/spellbook/api/v2/deploy/xxxxxxx">
                             <!-- Its only purpose is to trigger max context size check -->
                             <select id="model_scale_select" class="displayNone"></select>
+                            <label for="scale-alt" class="checkbox_label">
+                                <input id="scale-alt" type="checkbox" checked>
+                                <span data-i18n="Alt Method">Alt Method</span>
+                            </label>
                         </form>
 
                         <form id="ai21_form" data-source="ai21" action="javascript:void(null);" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data">
@@ -4356,4 +4372,4 @@
     </script>
 </body>
 
-</html>
\ No newline at end of file
+</html>
diff --git a/public/scripts/RossAscends-mods.js b/public/scripts/RossAscends-mods.js
index 3a2d0a395..c27b3d6a4 100644
--- a/public/scripts/RossAscends-mods.js
+++ b/public/scripts/RossAscends-mods.js
@@ -474,7 +474,7 @@ function RA_autoconnect(PrevApi) {
             case 'openai':
                 if (((secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.OPENAI] || oai_settings.reverse_proxy) && oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.OPENAI)
                     || ((secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.CLAUDE] || oai_settings.reverse_proxy) && oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.CLAUDE)
-                    || (secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.SCALE] && oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.SCALE)
+                    || ((secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.SCALE] || secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.SCALE_COOKIE]) && oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.SCALE)
                     || (oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.WINDOWAI)
                     || (secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.OPENROUTER] && oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.OPENROUTER)
                     || (secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.AI21] && oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.AI21)
diff --git a/public/scripts/openai.js b/public/scripts/openai.js
index e83af5d91..0a3317fcf 100644
--- a/public/scripts/openai.js
+++ b/public/scripts/openai.js
@@ -110,8 +110,8 @@ const max_4k = 4095;
 const max_8k = 8191;
 const max_16k = 16383;
 const max_32k = 32767;
-const scale_max = 7900; // Probably more. Save some for the system prompt defined on Scale site.
-const claude_max = 8000; // We have a proper tokenizer, so theoretically could be larger (up to 9k)
+const scale_max = 8191; // Probably more. Save some for the system prompt defined on Scale site.
+const claude_max = 9000; // We have a proper tokenizer, so theoretically could be larger (up to 9k)
 const palm2_max = 7500; // The real context window is 8192, spare some for padding due to using turbo tokenizer
 const claude_100k_max = 99000;
 let ai21_max = 9200; //can easily fit 9k gpt tokens because j2's tokenizer is efficient af
@@ -219,6 +219,7 @@ const default_settings = {
     proxy_password: '',
     assistant_prefill: '',
     use_ai21_tokenizer: false,
+    use_alt_scale: true,
 };
 
 const oai_settings = {
@@ -260,6 +261,7 @@ const oai_settings = {
     proxy_password: '',
     assistant_prefill: '',
     use_ai21_tokenizer: false,
+    use_alt_scale: true,
 };
 
 let openai_setting_names;
@@ -1062,6 +1064,35 @@ function saveModelList(data) {
     }
 }
 
+async function sendAltScaleRequest(openai_msgs_tosend, signal) {
+    const generate_url = '/generate_altscale';
+
+    let firstMsg = substituteParams(openai_msgs_tosend[0].content);
+    let subsequentMsgs = openai_msgs_tosend.slice(1);
+
+    const joinedMsgs = subsequentMsgs.reduce((acc, obj) => {
+        return acc + obj.role + ": " + obj.content + "\n";
+    }, "");
+    openai_msgs_tosend = substituteParams(joinedMsgs);
+    console.log(openai_msgs_tosend)
+
+    const generate_data = {
+        sysprompt: firstMsg,
+        prompt: openai_msgs_tosend,
+        temp: parseFloat(oai_settings.temp_openai),
+        max_tokens: parseFloat(oai_settings.openai_max_tokens),
+    }
+
+    const response = await fetch(generate_url, {
+        method: 'POST',
+        body: JSON.stringify(generate_data),
+        headers: getRequestHeaders(),
+        signal: signal
+    });
+    const data = await response.json();
+    return data.output;
+}
+
 async function sendOpenAIRequest(type, openai_msgs_tosend, signal) {
     // Provide default abort signal
     if (!signal) {
@@ -1092,6 +1123,10 @@ async function sendOpenAIRequest(type, openai_msgs_tosend, signal) {
         openai_msgs_tosend = substituteParams(joinedMsgs);
     }
 
+    if (isScale && !!$('#scale-alt').prop('checked')) {
+        return sendAltScaleRequest(openai_msgs_tosend, signal)
+    }
+
     // If we're using the window.ai extension, use that instead
     // Doesn't support logit bias yet
     if (oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.WINDOWAI) {
@@ -1934,6 +1969,7 @@ function loadOpenAISettings(data, settings) {
     if (settings.names_in_completion !== undefined) oai_settings.names_in_completion = !!settings.names_in_completion;
     if (settings.openai_model !== undefined) oai_settings.openai_model = settings.openai_model;
     if (settings.use_ai21_tokenizer !== undefined) oai_settings.use_ai21_tokenizer = !!settings.use_ai21_tokenizer;
+    if (settings.use_alt_scale !== undefined) { oai_settings.use_alt_scale = !!settings.use_alt_scale; updateScaleForm(); }
     $('#stream_toggle').prop('checked', oai_settings.stream_openai);
     $('#api_url_scale').val(oai_settings.api_url_scale);
     $('#openai_proxy_password').val(oai_settings.proxy_password);
@@ -1963,6 +1999,7 @@ function loadOpenAISettings(data, settings) {
     $('#openai_show_external_models').prop('checked', oai_settings.show_external_models);
     $('#openai_external_category').toggle(oai_settings.show_external_models);
     $('#use_ai21_tokenizer').prop('checked', oai_settings.use_ai21_tokenizer);
+    $('#scale-alt').prop('checked', oai_settings.use_alt_scale);
     if (settings.impersonation_prompt !== undefined) oai_settings.impersonation_prompt = settings.impersonation_prompt;
 
     $('#impersonation_prompt_textarea').val(oai_settings.impersonation_prompt);
@@ -2160,6 +2197,7 @@ async function saveOpenAIPreset(name, settings, triggerUi = true) {
         show_external_models: settings.show_external_models,
         assistant_prefill: settings.assistant_prefill,
         use_ai21_tokenizer: settings.use_ai21_tokenizer,
+        use_alt_scale: settings.use_alt_scale,
     };
 
     const savePresetSettings = await fetch(`/savepreset_openai?name=${name}`, {
@@ -2496,6 +2534,7 @@ function onSettingsPresetChange() {
         proxy_password: ['#openai_proxy_password', 'proxy_password', false],
         assistant_prefill: ['#claude_assistant_prefill', 'assistant_prefill', false],
         use_ai21_tokenizer: ['#use_ai21_tokenizer', 'use_ai21_tokenizer', false],
+        use_alt_scale: ['#use_alt_scale', 'use_alt_scale', false],
     };
 
     const presetName = $('#settings_perset_openai').find(":selected").text();
@@ -2791,20 +2830,31 @@ async function onConnectButtonClick(e) {
 
     if (oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.SCALE) {
         const api_key_scale = $('#api_key_scale').val().trim();
+        const scale_cookie = $('#scale_cookie').val().trim();
 
         if (api_key_scale.length) {
             await writeSecret(SECRET_KEYS.SCALE, api_key_scale);
         }
 
-        if (!oai_settings.api_url_scale) {
+        if (scale_cookie.length) {
+            await writeSecret(SECRET_KEYS.SCALE_COOKIE, scale_cookie);
+        }
+
+        if (!oai_settings.api_url_scale && !oai_settings.use_alt_scale) {
             console.log('No API URL saved for Scale');
             return;
         }
 
-        if (!secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.SCALE]) {
+        if (!secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.SCALE] && !oai_settings.use_alt_scale) {
             console.log('No secret key saved for Scale');
             return;
         }
+
+        if (!secret_state[SECRET_KEYS.SCALE_COOKIE] && oai_settings.use_alt_scale) {
+            console.log("No cookie set for Scale");
+            return;
+        }
+
     }
 
     if (oai_settings.chat_completion_source == chat_completion_sources.CLAUDE) {
@@ -2914,11 +2964,27 @@ function onProxyPasswordShowClick() {
     $(this).toggleClass('fa-eye-slash fa-eye');
 }
 
+function updateScaleForm() {
+    if (oai_settings.use_alt_scale) {
+        $('#normal_scale_form').css('display', 'none');
+        $('#alt_scale_form').css('display', '');
+    } else {
+        $('#normal_scale_form').css('display', '');
+        $('#alt_scale_form').css('display', 'none');
+    }
+}
+
 $(document).ready(async function () {
     await loadTokenCache();
 
     $('#test_api_button').on('click', testApiConnection);
 
+    $('#scale-alt').on('change', function () {
+        oai_settings.use_alt_scale = !!$('#scale-alt').prop('checked');
+        saveSettingsDebounced();
+        updateScaleForm();
+    });
+
     $(document).on('input', '#temp_openai', function () {
         oai_settings.temp_openai = $(this).val();
         $('#temp_counter_openai').text(Number($(this).val()).toFixed(2));
diff --git a/public/scripts/secrets.js b/public/scripts/secrets.js
index 202870c50..c695ca88c 100644
--- a/public/scripts/secrets.js
+++ b/public/scripts/secrets.js
@@ -9,6 +9,7 @@ export const SECRET_KEYS = {
     OPENROUTER: 'api_key_openrouter',
     SCALE: 'api_key_scale',
     AI21: 'api_key_ai21',
+    SCALE_COOKIE: 'scale_cookie',
 }
 
 const INPUT_MAP = {
@@ -20,6 +21,7 @@ const INPUT_MAP = {
     [SECRET_KEYS.OPENROUTER]: '#api_key_openrouter',
     [SECRET_KEYS.SCALE]: '#api_key_scale',
     [SECRET_KEYS.AI21]: '#api_key_ai21',
+    [SECRET_KEYS.SCALE_COOKIE]: '#scale_cookie',
 }
 
 async function clearSecret() {
diff --git a/server.js b/server.js
index 5f6841bfd..6a1279594 100644
--- a/server.js
+++ b/server.js
@@ -3231,6 +3231,75 @@ async function sendScaleRequest(request, response) {
     }
 }
 
+app.post("/generate_altscale", jsonParser, function (request, response_generate_scale) {
+    if(!request.body) return response_generate_scale.sendStatus(400);
+
+    fetch('https://dashboard.scale.com/spellbook/api/trpc/v2.variant.run', {
+        method: 'POST',
+        headers: {
+            'Content-Type': 'application/json',
+            'cookie': `_jwt=${readSecret(SECRET_KEYS.SCALE_COOKIE)}`,
+        },
+        body: JSON.stringify({
+            json: {
+                variant: {
+                    name: 'New Variant',
+                    appId: '',
+                    taxonomy: null
+                },
+                prompt: {
+                    id: '',
+                    template: '{{input}}\n',
+                    exampleVariables: {},
+                    variablesSourceDataId: null,
+                    systemMessage: request.body.sysprompt
+                },
+                modelParameters: {
+                    id: '',
+                    modelId: 'GPT4',
+                    modelType: 'OpenAi',
+                    maxTokens: request.body.max_tokens,
+                    temperature: request.body.temp,
+                    stop: null,
+                    suffix: null,
+                    topP: null,
+                    logprobs: null,
+                    logitBias: null
+                },
+                inputs: [
+                    {
+                        index: '-1',
+                        valueByName: {
+                            input: request.body.prompt
+                        }
+                    }
+                ]
+            },
+            meta: {
+                values: {
+                    'variant.taxonomy': ['undefined'],
+                    'prompt.variablesSourceDataId': ['undefined'],
+                    'modelParameters.stop': ['undefined'],
+                    'modelParameters.suffix': ['undefined'],
+                    'modelParameters.topP': ['undefined'],
+                    'modelParameters.logprobs': ['undefined'],
+                    'modelParameters.logitBias': ['undefined']
+                }
+            }
+        })
+    })
+        .then(response => response.json())
+        .then(data => {
+            console.log(data.result.data.json.outputs[0])
+            return response_generate_scale.send({output: data.result.data.json.outputs[0]});
+        })
+        .catch((error) => {
+            console.error('Error:', error)
+            return response_generate_scale.send({error: true})
+        });
+
+});
+
 async function sendClaudeRequest(request, response) {
     const fetch = require('node-fetch').default;
 
@@ -3917,7 +3986,8 @@ const SECRET_KEYS = {
     DEEPL: 'deepl',
     OPENROUTER: 'api_key_openrouter',
     SCALE: 'api_key_scale',
-    AI21: 'api_key_ai21'
+    AI21: 'api_key_ai21',
+    SCALE_COOKIE: 'scale_cookie',
 }
 
 function migrateSecrets() {